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Highly disappointed. I was scheduled for a virtual tour, and got the confirmation text that the room was open. After waiting 10 minutes I sent them a text asking whether they were just running late. They apologized and said someone would be with me shortly. 15 minutes later, still no one. Then I sent another text and they just asked if I wanted to reschedule. If the first contact was this unprofessional, I'm glad I'm not moving to this building.
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How very unfortunate to have to resort to leaving these disgraceful reviews. I had wanted to live at 3400 since I was a teenager, always mesmerized by it's external beauty when driving by. Then my dream came true last year when I moved into the 3rd floor of one of their buildings. This dream then turned into a nightmare. I am very tolerant but little by little things just added up. Please do not make the same mistake I made by renting here. Here are the issues: 1. The walls are paper! I literally hear every footstep from the neighbors above. Music, TV, talking , sex.. yep.. you hear it all. 2. The balcony is roomy, and you will want to fill it up with your patio furniture to enjoy. Unfortunately, this furniture will soon be covered in dirt, trash, spilled drinks, and dog feces from the balcony above yours. The balconies flooring are long wood panels with spacing between them allowing for everything from above to seep down. 3. Without much notice they closed one of the main attractions of this place ( a big reason why we fork over so much rent)... the main pool area. It is shut down for 3 months. It is their duty to inform you of what things will not be available to you during your lease term. I work in commercial real estate so I know that these big capital improvement projects are planned way in advance. This just speaks very negative on management and AIMCO. 4. The apartments have a lot of maintenance issues. Maybe it's the age, and maybe it's how cheap AIMCO is in the maintenance. Within a month i had two leaks from the roof!! First I had leaking and mold in my bathroom. They came to repair it, but left it open and patched up with plastic and a mess on my tub. They said they would be back the next day to patch it up. It took days, and kept putting it off. Meanwhile, the patch kept stretching down as it filled up from the leak above. I told them I did not want it like this over New Years since I was hosting a get together. They failed to deliver, and I was stuck with it until after New Years. Fast forward a week after and I wake up at 3am to the noise of water dropping. I go to the living area and there was water pouring out of a light fixture and the water sprinkler. There was damage to my personal items, and my renters insurance refused to help since it was landlords fault. I sent a message to management stating they were at fault and they ignored me. It also destroyed the ceiling paint and it took them almost a month to finally respond to my requests to get it fixed. Then there was a gas leak few weeks after that, so the issues keep coming. 5. Management has no respect for personal space. They intruded into my apartment three times! They will walk into your apartment without notice. I tell them to call me before entering my apartment. And in two occasions i would come home from work and find them inside making a repair. The third time was the last straw: my husband had just had surgery and was home resting. We had a friend over that day and all of a sudden around lunch time they hear someone opening the door and two men come in. My husband and his friend freaks out and ask them what they are doing. The men just looked surprised and said "there is never anyone here at this time" and they could not say what they came in for nor did they have any repair tools on them. Because of mainly reason number 5, we requested that they work with us in allowing us to leave after month 12 of their lease (they make you sign 15 month leases). We no longer feel safe in the apartment. They completely shut me down, and would not even offer to have the manager speak to me in person. They literally just blew me off with a... sorry but not so sorry. Whatever you do, do not sign a lease here. All they care about is money and not the well being of their tenants. AIMCO is running this community to the ground. I have met many other tenants with even worse stories than mine and I think it is time we all stood up for ourselves. Ps: there is horrible cell signal here!! What is this a third world country?!
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Jolanta who was our leasing specialist was the best. She was great at providing all information for our move in. BUT, the first 2 months we were there they broke our friends back window and took his belongings. Then, about a month ago they broke into my car and took all my paperwork in the glove box (registration, insurance information, attempt of taking the VIN number tags, etc). I felt violated and concerned that they moved our parking spot to a visible location, but they had charged us for $40 and when we saw an increase on our rent. I approached Ashley who had helped us and said it would be adjusted, but they would of never mentioned anything if I wouldn't of emailed. We have had many talks with the leasing center and we say to let residences know about the crime happening and it was said that they do not want people to worry. How is that keeping our community safe if we are not informed? Yesterday, I was at the gym and people were talking about burglars jumping into people balconies and going into their apartment. These crimes have gone too far where the Leasing Center is not doing their job. We are beyond thankful to be moving this Saturday to a better location for its worth price. If I knew then, what I know now. I would of NEVER leased an apartment at 3400 Avenue of the Arts.
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I am currently living in this community. Sorry, to say of my three years living here, my lease has increased tremendously. Nice amenities but not worth $600 increase since I moved in. I thought they would reconsider on giving their good renter a break but bad management speaks for itself. I look forward in moving out.
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Zero stars if possible! First off, leasing folks lie about the noise from Sunflower and quality of tenants here. Only saving grace was the lovely lady Yolanta who was super friendly and helpful when I lived here. The free espresso machine was awesome. Other than that, I had to call police multiple times on loud neighbors who threatened me after rude parties at 2am during the week. Security is useless. I had idiots constantly parking illegal in my spot and had to have the car towed many times. Worst part- when I moved out, the place was spotless. AIMCO (Scamco!) ripped me off on the deposit and gave me only $100 out of the $800 back. Avoid this place and AIMCO!
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Two weeks ago someone attempted to steal my motorcycle out of the garage. I made a report with the office and police. The office said they would get back to me after they review the security camera footage. The concierge looked at the tapes the next day and found the camera didn't actually work. The office never got back to me so 16 days after I reported the incident I went back down to the office to seek answers. The office management seemed like it was the first time they were hearing about the incident. After then being informed that the camera doesn't work I inquired about when it was going to be fixed because it is now 16 days after they found out it wasn't working. The answer was "we're in the process of finding out". I spoke to residents that park in the spaces next to me and two of them have had bicycles stolen, one reported it to the office and one didn't. The one that did report it got the same answer as I did. His incident happened three months ago. I went back down to the office to speak further about the known break ins and broken cameras and the woman told me the office manager would call me the next day. The office manager never called and I was told he instead went to a company softball game. Apparently company softball games are more important than issues from residents. It seems like the only way to get a response from management is to post on social media as made evident though other yelp reviews. If someone were to ask my opinion about moving in, I would strongly advise against it.
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My Car was broken in for the 5th time today. I won't even bother reporting this to the office. Why pay a large parking fee when there is zero security?
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Too bad I could not give negative stars for this place. Today I showed up at the leasing office an waited patiently while the leasing agents practically did nothing to help me. The staff is incompetent the tenants appear to be the worse type of human beings. We waited roughly about 20-30 minutes while two agents were doing nothing and this older couple (30-40) show up and demand to be assisted and claim to have an appointment, but he didn't know their appointment time nor who scheduled it. So then the receptionist explains to me that they must assist them first and to wait. I could not believe she did that when this douchebag treated her so poorly. She said that it may take a while to get any assistance and recommended that i leave and schedule an appointment for later in the day, I agreed with her to my dismay. I leave and take a look at a few other properties in the area and was treated quite well despite being more than 30 days out from moving in. I had scheduled to come back at 4:30pm to meet with an agent. I show up and a different and even more incompetent receptionist said they are unable to honor the appointment time because no tours or agents can schedule anything past 4:30 and can try to see if they can accommodate me but was unlikely as she was too busy with her FaceBook page. At this point I have seen one person walk in and was completely disgruntled with the service and maintenance of the property and seemed like a total weirdo and another person who demanded to be helped because he traveled all the way from Newport and was inconvenienced by forgetting his appointment time and who he was suppose to meet with and of course it was their fault. So there are two people, one prospective, and both individuals I wouldn't want to push out of the way from a moving bus. I would not want to live around people like this and staff that is totally worthless. The only bright spot is the call center located remotely from the property who were very helpful in rescheduling. Seriously, you're a leasing office with staff with nothing to do, you're job isn't that important, prices are already on a sheet in front of you and just tell me what you have available, I don't see any reason why I need to make an appointment, you're not consulting me for liver damage or eyeglasses. I received a call from one of the staff to say they apologize for the inconvenience, but consulted with the receptionist who begged to differ that she didn't waive us away... First of all, don't call to apologize if you're going to tell me that my story may have been false. 1) Poor Staff 2) Nice property 3) Unsavory Tenants
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Very rude leasing agent. She was not even ready to show us the model. She kept saying "it looks exactly as pictures on the website" ..........HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
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HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE!!!! the grounds are nice and apartments are nice, but management is RUDE, disrespectful and the most unaccommodating group I have ever encountered!!! If you want the whole story read on, but run away. Go to the enclave right across the street or skyline down the street and you will see a world of difference!!! Our first appointment we had was at 430, there was traffic and we were going to be 15 minutes late, we call the office and were told that it was not problem they closed at 6. 5 minutes later we were called again informing us that the department that told us they closed at 6 was the regional office and they really closed at 5, so they would not be able to show us around. I was very frustrated!! we drove over an hour and were given incorrect information that was not our fault, they agreed to show us one model apartment but not give us a tour. we looked at the 2/2 penthouse, it was very nice, but we felt rushed and not taken care of. Still we were hoping it was a one time occurrence and made another appointment to take the tour and see the actual apartment we would rent. it was fine except for these awful plastic blinds over the skylight with a dirty copper chain hanging from the 20 ft vaulted ceiling (kind of takes away from the awe factor right). We were sitting there ready to sign a lease and check in hand when the GM was rude, condescending and just the biggest snootiest snob I have ever seen it made us walk out right theree. She refused to take down the blinds, but told use we could PAY to have them taken down (mind you the previous tenant put them up, they are not standard for the unit!). They also have a limit on how many ppl each tenant can bring to the common areas, which I have no problem with, but I asked if there was NO ONE at the pool and we were clearly not causing a problem would it be ok to have more ppl, She was unwilling to budge, and said they have security checks because the guest have to PUT UP COLLATERAL (ie DL) to get a bracelet, anyone at anytime without a bracelet will be kicked out, even if there was no one else there!!! They were rude, flakey and just plain bad. However if you don't care about customer service, good management or feeling taken care of the grounds are beautiful with amazing amenities and okay apartment interiors but really skyline beats their butts in my opinion of every level!! hope it helps
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Without a doubt, the worst apartment complex I've ever lived in. Rampant leak issues across both the community and the individual unit, mailbox was broken into twice and my birthday gift was stolen, LOUD noises constantly between nonstop fire alarms, incessant dog barking, nonstop repairs + construction for the leaks and all manner of other stuff. The utilities are the most expensive I have paid anywhere else... $100 for sewage, trash and water per month? When a leak formed in my apartment, it took over 3 days for someone to come out to deal with it. The walls are paper thin so my upstairs neighbors kept me up at night and when I tried to take naps during the day. Now it's been a month since I've moved out and there still has been no resolution on the fact that I was charged for keys that I returned on time and cleaning which I paid professionals for. They can give me no answers as to why it hasn't been resolved yet, or who to talk to to make it go faster. Don't live here. I should have gone with my 1st choice apartment instead, but I was distracted by the amenities.
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Horrible community! Look elsewhere. For the cost Irvine Company apartments offer better service, better amenities, and higher quality of living. Lived here for 15 months, here are things that went wrong. - When we toured the apartment we said we wanted it, instead of walking us through the online application they told us to go home and apply. Likely o they could help their next client. Online form was confusing and wouldn't allow us to add three individuals to the lease. - once process was sorted out it took 5 leasing specialists to figure out our situation. We were trying to give the the deposit and first months rent but due to complications with the website or me, information wasn't processed properly. - the amenities look good at first glance but take a closer look they are old, the game room has old equipment, climbing wall is a joke, tenants let their dogs defecate anywhere on the premise. - they accused us of changing the locks. Even though maintenence guys have been able to get in. - entered without permission or notice into our apartment. Roommate was sleeping and not clothed. - parking is a joke, they charge for every spot in addition to the rent. - had people park in my assigned spot twice and they did not take care of it. - walls are thin. - there are many large families that share the apartment. - elevators frequently fail, Ive been stuck in one. - there are people who sneak onto the property who use the gym. They act like they forget their keys. I've live in a lot of communities and this place has been the worst. We paid $2800 a month and the experience we got was horrible. If tenants do something wrong we get punished. If the property does something wrong they get away by saying "sorry". Matt Comicz is the community manager. Ask him about my specific experience and he would gladly share. My name is Matt S. I lived in apartment C324. Take my advice, go look at the Enclave. Be aware, I think this apartment complex fluffs their own yelp rating.
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I have lived here for 2 years and this place has gotten worse and worse. I've had multiple items stolen from the parking garage on 3 different occasions. They recently started charging residents $150 per day to use the pool cabanas during holiday weekends, Shouldn't the $2200 per month rent on a 1 bedroom apartment cover that? The topper, and reason I'm writing this review, is that the maintenance company, who is 3rd party company, changed my locks today for no apparent reason and won't let me back in my apartment! When I came home from work today and tried opening the door the key didn't work so I drove to get another key, in disbelief that they would change my locks unannounced, and sure enough the other key doesn't work either. So I called the gate, who gave me a phone number for emergency maintenance. Someone named Roger answered, I explained the situation and Roger said he will put a work order in... a work order i thought? So I stepped up the urgency of my tone and said something like "i need to know when your going to open the f*#*%ing door Roger, this is pretty important, can you at least call me once you have found someone to come unlock my door? He said "I'm only going to warn you one time not to swear" I said "you would probably swear too if you got locked out of your f@&$#ing house!" At that point he hung up on me and I've been sitting here by the stupid &$&ing fire for over an hour waiting for a call from Roger... this is my nightmare! Don't make the same mistake as I did and move here. **Update** I am writing this update the morning after, I originally got home at 6PM and submitted the work order to have my locks fixed. I called to check on the work order 3 additional times at 6:45, 7:30 and 8:15PM- a different person answered each time who was not able to confirm that a work order was in process to fix my locks, instead each time they said all they can do is submit a new work order. We went to dinner and came home at 10PM to check one more key, Daniel, the service coordinator, was waiting in my doorway, no phone call was given to notify me. Daniel was friendly and helpful, he explained that they had mixed up the work orders and changed the locks on the wrong unit... Next time you might want to double check the apartment number guys!
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Ask me how I know ? Well I use to work and live at 3400:) 1. Rent is to Expensive ($$$$ way to much money for the Box you will live in) 2. Manager and leasing agents will LIE to you about every thing. 3. Plenty of Drug dealers 4.Child molester 5. Rats and I'm not talking about the manager/leasing agents 6. Nonstop parties (All through the week and weekend) 7. Security sucks (call the police department if you need info on how many break-ins they have had) 8. Strangers go into the pool at all times 9. Gym equipment always broken 10. The manager and leasing agents talk shhhh****t on ALL the tenants 11. Street noise at all times 12. They tell everyone there's a sauna (it's a lie) 13. They have lots of hidden fees 14. once they get you into a lease your life will be miserable 15. and more to come
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First off, I don't live in this community but we were considering this as a potential place to move into. We were here yesterday to look at apartments and had the worst experience with the leasing folks. We got a sense that they only cater to certain types of people and are not even pleasant to the rest! When we walked in the receptionist did not seem to care much and then it was the leasing director's turn to be rude. She asked us where we currently lived and said we lived in a 3 star place whereas theirs is a 5 star. She even asked us if we have looked up apartments and prices online before coming! I was shocked to hear that! Then they charge for parking and then.. she asked us to leave her office because she had to talk to her manager. She practically shoved us out! Then another girl was to help us and she condescendingly asked us to step into her office and said the same thing - you live in a typical apartment whereas ours is a contemporary upscale resort community. When I did see the apartments, there was NOTHING great about them! I can't believe how people get away with treating others like this. After all aren these guys supposed to be all about customer service??? Oh well.. After that kind of a treatment, we decided this wasn even worth a consideration! There are better places and people out there!
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Posted 8/2016. These apartments will draw you in with their spacious floor plans, TONS of storage, fairly updated units, and vast amenities, but it's all a myth. We had so many issues in our 13 months of living here and we're so happy to be out. 1. Safety--Our first safety issue came about 3 am one day when this gal was ringing the door bell. I was home alone, so I was definitely startled. I crept up to the door to look through the peephole and saw this woman dressed in all black standing there. She kept ringing, so I crept back to our room and called the gate. They said they would send someone right up. Well I get a call back a few minutes later--after the lady had left--and they "couldn't find her." We live in a gated community where you have to fob in to all of the doors and your fob only works for your building and the gym. Fast forward a few months to our second safety incident. My husband was trying the keys we had cut in our front door and this gal pushed her way into our apartment frantic and saying that her roommate was trying to hurt her. She was rambling and not making sense and meanwhile she was taking her sim card out of her phone--more on that in a sec. So when she told us that she was out in the hall talking on the phone when she heard her roommate and a make friend talking about her--and then a gun cock--we told her she had to go. We offered to call the police or security--she said no and left. We put the sim card into a microreader and there were pictures of these crystals. We google image searched the images and they came back as crystal meth. We immediately called the security office and they said they would send someone up to take a report. Well they still haven't shown up so we call again and they said that they did a patrol and didn't see anyone (same excuse) and aren't coming so they tell me to "call the cops" and hang up. So we call the police and they come and we report what happened. The officers both said that they aren't surprised and this situation happens a lot at our complex. Well great that's comforting. 2. Terrible Management--Ever since Matthew came to be manager at 3400, we saw a decline in services. The management office closed and you can't reach anyone by phone unless you want to rent an apartment. He never responds to e-mail--he forwards it to someone also and says "Can you answer her." Or he just doesn't respond at all--because he is always out of the office. This became a huge issue when we decided to have friends over at the pool and were notified an HOUR before our friends would arrive that there was a policy of two guests per resident. We have NEVER heard of this policy nor have we seen anyone else adhere to it--the main pool is basically like Vegas every weekend. Well apparently the police came a few times the day before--this is normal on the weekends--so management was dropping the hammer. When I tried to talk to the manager in the office (not Matthew because he is never in the office), I was told that "there has always been a policy and it's in your lease." When she checked our file, the box next to "pool bands" was left blank, proving that we were never notified as I told her. It's also NOT in the lease because we checked. She wouldn't budge though so we had to change locations at the last minute, which was infuriating because the policy doesn't exist--they had probably just gotten in trouble. She tried to say that she wasn't aware of the issues at the pool every, which is LIE. The leasing agents ALL walk perspective tenants through the pool area on the tour--including the woman I was speaking to. They walk right through the middle of the raucous partying that is ALWAYS happening every weekend without fail. PLUS they have a "concierge" who "patrols" the pool, which really means he lounges in the chairs or on the large cushions with the bikini-clad tenants while drinking their beers and eating their food all day (see the pic). 3. Nickel and Dime--You will pay and pay some more to live here. And we aren't really sure what we were getting in return. The amenities seem nice but if you look closely the pool furniture is falling apart and the gym equipment is really showing wear. We paid for garage parking but had the option to park for free in the uncovered spots. Well those days are NO MORE. In the middle of our lease, they assigned all of the "free" spots and started charging for them. $50 for garage and $25 for outside. Every month. And guest parking is very limited and you will get towed if you are a tenant and park in guest. You also pay a "convenience" fee to have your water, sewage, trash and pest bills rolled into one. It's not a convenience if I am not given a choice to pay it. It's a FEE plain and simple. Also, there are lots of roaches/water bugs all over the place so I am not sure what the pest fee was going toward. I am out of space or I would keep going. DON'T DO IT. Live elsewhere. You will be much happier, safer, and probably have more money.
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Unprofessional Management !!!
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It's very unfortunate that I have to give it at least one star because it honestly deserves zero. This community is THEEE worst I've ever lived in, and I've lived in numerous communities all across Orange County. Contrary to what the inept manager says, car break-ins do not happen everywhere; they primarily only happen at the 3400s. In fact, when I contacted the Costa Mesa police department, the officer said almost 100% of their calls are regarding car break-ins. It's unfortunate that they say it so nonchalantly like it's not a big deal; it's a huge deal and it's very violating. The manager even said "it's not just your building, it happens everywhere" as though he was proud and gloating about it. I said that's not something you should take pride in. Your tenants should feel safe. This morning 5 cars got broken into. Five!!! And management did nothing. They said that we had to take it up with our insurance and they can't do anything about it. I brought up the fact that there are no cameras down in the garage, to which the inept manager said "well cameras are only going to deter people from doing it, but it's not going to stop it from happening." Uhh yeah, I think that's the point you ignoramus. He even had the audacity to say that he's honest with his tenants by saying that car break-ins are common here and that he can't guarantee they feel safe because things can happen anywhere. I think that for the high price we are all paying, we should definitely feel safe. I advise you not to move in here. The leasing office is the worst. To be honest the only reason they started to be a little better, and only with me, was because I complained to their property manager about how unorganized they were. The units are nice but that's only if you're in the penthouse. If you're not in the penthouse, then don't even bother.
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The security is zero I live here for 4 years now and someone brake to my car 2 times in last 3 months it's coast me more than $1800 it's append to most of the residents in the complex we pay here enough for getting at least good security so we can sleep and not thinking that maybe go to brake your Windows and stolen everything The have a few cameras inside the garage parking but you never can see it .
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I visit my buddy and his wife here on a weekly basis. Parking is horrible. Forget inviting friends and family as they will never find a spot. Sometimes takes me 15 minutes to find a spot. Car break ins are common The jacuzzi continually breaks and it smells horrible. Everyone has dogs and they poop all over the place. I have seen pet urine, feces, and barf in the elevators, in the hallways, right by the indoor mailbox, and other places. This place will never get my business!
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Do NOT live here. Positive reviews are fake or paid for by the company. I am a current tenant and have been for 3 months, I am dreading the remaining 9 months on my lease. Unless you want to be awoken by people screaming at 4am on weekdays, trash filled community spaces and loud units which are being used as AirBNB's. Management is unresponsive and an absolute nightmare to work with. You will regret living here. Not worth the price tag, plenty of nice places in the surrounding area, this isn't one of them.
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Alright, so my first review was because I was brand new to this community. Let me share what I've had to deal with as our lease is coming up soon: Trash left in odd areas throughout the entire community close to the trash room but not quite. In the stairways and front entrances near elevators and I'm not talking about gum wrappers; I'm talking about boxes filled with trash. It's sad that some of our neighbors can't go the extra distance to the trash room but it calls into question if this place is understaffed as the garbage is left there for weeks at a time. What happened to the cleaning crew... [I really miss my old place, at the crossing apartments; cross street is Tustin and La Palma. Now that place knew how to take care of the community. For all you pet owners they even offer a dog washing station. I don't know if there's one in this community. But I suggest you check it out if anyone is interested.] When we first moved in here I noticed that the faucet in the kitchen only has 2 functions: Waste lots of water or don't do your dishes. We also didn't have a functioning ice maker in the freezer and our dryer dries our clothes but it seriously takes about 4-5 hours for clothes to dry. Maintenance came about twice to check out the problems. They said "that's how it works" about the faucet and dryer. They said they fixed the problem with the ice maker. I still haven't seen ice since then. And I guess I'm still waiting for someone to check it out like I was told.... 7 months and counting... This community is really up to par with so many updates and spamming my email with so many things yet some just don't reach. Very important matters, such as burglary reports, theft, etc. There was a burglary that happened in the lower floor of my building a woman and her family were victims of this crime before/during the holidays and were barely moved back in the end of January. These people even stole her baby's things. There's really lack of security if you decide to live here and get this: the community has allowed visitor parking inside the garage of the buildings instead of hosting it OUTSIDE of this community. Therefore, if you need that extra spot you can either park your car OUTSIDE the community or if you'd like to have a spot reserved for yourself you gotta pay the extra bucks to have your car near to you, but here's the funny thing; Either way your car has 50/50 chance at being vandalized and victim of theft :) Something that also haven't reached our emails; the new project of having a dog park built on the property occupying what was once the tennis courts and basketball court. I spoke with someone at the front desk about this and she blatantly lied her pants off claiming that an email was sent out of the new project and it may be possible that it may have been lost in my email. please. I spoke to many residents who hasn't received this email either. The main reason why we chose to move in here was because of these amenities. I wonder what else they'll do away with, without these notices. I hope this review helps with anybody's decision to move into this community. Residents are nice, but you really don't know if they are your residents here especially since it's easy getting through the gates; hence the burglaries in the garages and apartments. If you're paying for a not upgraded apartment, they're gonna leave you with a crappy fridge, washer, dryer, and a stupid faucet. These are all the facts laid out at your convenience. The gym is ok. The pool is nice; just pick your go to times in the summer because that gets especially crowded.
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The few days before we moved out (THANK GOD), my car was broken into. These buttheads stole my interlock device (breathlyzer)... for what reason, I will never know. Not only that, but they took my very nice school backpack with all my geology books, math workbook, wireless mouse... this person was obviously a very low person. What was really great was that not only was it right in front of the garage camera but it was not 100 feet from the supposed 24-hour guard house. Management was less than helpful. Never got back to me. When our bikes were stolen from the same garage, they were just as helpful. Rudely dismissed by the staff in the leasing office. Probably don't to reiterate this, but DO NOT MOVE HERE. I can't imagine that any person who pays the ungodly amount they ask for this dump wants to deal with the amount of bugs ("oh, they're just water bugs" ok, waterbugs, cockroaches and some other hybrid of both that we found in our apartment) or many levels of thievery (starting with the leasing office and working its way down to the surrounding filth) this place has to offer. To the leasing office: you sure as hell won't find my name on any lease in your system. I wouldn't tarnish my good name with your crap apartment complex.
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DON'T MOVE HERE!!!! All these reviews are correct.. my car was broken into, another car in my garage was stolen due to the lack of security. The entire management team has changed, for the worse and there is ZERO resident appreciation here (they bring a food truck on Fridays to make money themselves) that's LITERALLY the only thing they do and of course you pay for the food.. The common areas are nice and you will rarely use them after living here for a few months and they charge you to use the canopies at the community pool... yeah, that's lame.. The building is 35 years old and has over 700 units... Aimco is the PM company. Security is literally dog shit.. there are 2 gates to get into the property and half the time the gates are broken or the front entrance is always left open! No wonder why cars get broken into all day. You can LITERALLY hear and know where your upstairs neighbors are at due to the crappy foundation, you hear the water heater in your unit ALL day making noise, which sounds like a pop. DO YOUSELF A FAVOTR and don't move here. Thank the Lord my lease is up in December, it's been a rough 15 month lease. Oh, btw, noise complaints mean nothing here.. all your neighbors party and you call the "front desk", they send out a dude riding a trimotion scooter and they ask them from the patio if "you can possibly keep it down"? They NEVER go to the building. Or the off site call center will tell you that security is "offsite" and will try to make it there in 30 mins.. this is when you call at 3am on a Tuesday night and have work at 8. By far the longest review I've ever left and only 1 star review.. I could go on forever.. don't move here, you'll thank me later.
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Wish I could give zero stars. Do not be fooled. The complex seems great at first, but there are many ongoing issues that will never be addressed regardless of complaint. 1- The management refuses to answer the phone 2- stagnant water flood in parking garage for weeks at a time, must walk through water to get to your car. ongoing issue for years 3- FREQUENT water shut offs. 5 times in the past month 4- multiple tenants complaining of rats 5- Cars being broke into frequently. Complex does nothing. 6- They have made multiple "efforts to improve the community" which have been extremely unsuccessful. i.e. you must remember multiple codes, security risk, wait in a car line backed up down Ave of the Arts to get into the complex because of the "new" entry system 7- VERY loud in short, do not move here. Every other tenant I have spoken with is extremely unhappy, with some getting attorneys involved.
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My view from apt with pool view and waterfall . Palm trees branches not trimmed in over 6 months . A homeless person sleeping on the sidewalk , Consoldated Smart Systems service failed . Water pipe from building flooding the parking structure for months you would have to walk Thur this 5 inches of water to get to your car or apart Just got an email from leasing office stating there is a bad outbreak of bedbugs here . This is the 2nd emailing from this property management stating they have bedbugs and beware . Wtf Ok besides bedbugs which are hard as heck to rid of just know every single morning at 6:55 A.M . John Wayne airport starts theirs flights out . It's so loud they fly right in this direction . EVERY SINGLE MORNING I AM WOKEN UP BY THE LOUD AIRPLANE JUST TAKING OFF . There has been 2 airplanes in the past 4 months land their airplane on the freeway near by here and killing all involved . I think this is the only apartment complex it flys over . Apartments Michaelson does not hear the planes . So if u want to hear the airplanes LOUD fly over ya several times a day your in the right place here . If you want to be woken by landscapers moving lawn at 7:50 A.M. you hear it here. This place is very old come visit and see . They have 1 part time guard at gate who is barely there. The security cameras only see when u drive in a parking garage , they don't see anything else . And parking you have to pay $100 a Month for parking garage space , on top of rent here . THERE NO VISITOR PARKING SO DONT BOTHER. You have to park at South Coast plaza and walk over here . Or you will be towed and even though you have a handicap sticker they will tow you . They towed my aunt and we had to pay $400 to get it from Santa Ana Mo's Towing who has a contract with 3400 so they charge you anything . Internet Service doesn't work in any of the buildings so don't plan to work from home , you will be fired the service goes in and out and even though you put in a service request with Spectrum , or Direct TV they only want you to sign up with Consoldated Smarts System who they are contracted with and service is horrible. After u rent here every single person in the leasing office acts like they don't know u anymore . They are friendly when they want your business, once they get it they dodge you , ignore you , and say they will get back to you and never do . Trust what you are reading here, I'm not bitter, I'm only telling you my experience here, and there are SO MANY BETTER PLACES THAN HERE. You will see. And make sure you look at the walls and corners of each apartment they tour you through . There are bugs, cobwebs and even hornet nest in the ceiling of the patio. Oh which by the way, construction is going on next door to here ( building other apartment living ) they work at night so you hear beeping from the construction trucks at night . The vertical blinds in every apartment and the bugs that are in the corners of the floors should help u decide , this place needs a lot of care . The bedbugs alone should drive you away and check your clothes when you leave , you might find brown black speckled Tiny bugs on you. That's bedbugs , and you are taking them with u from here . And the elevator is broken all the time not to mention the water that drips on your parked car in the parking garage from these rusty pipes . I'm on the top floor and I hear people below me walking on these fake hardwood floors , they designed these apartments all wrong they should never have these floors above the bedrooms of below apartment . You hear everyone walking around and you shouldn't in your bedroom anyway . Good luck on your search . Don't let the swim pool and location fool ya, like I did. I could of been off jamboree there's so many apartment complex and u don't have the airplane Loud noise wake you up daily This place is very old & unclean . Right before I moved out the leasing management sent an email to all residence that there is a serious case of BEDBUGS going around on this property . I threw out my $7000 mattress just to be safe. I had a couple black some bugs on my mattress protector and got scared . I told management I'm not moving until they investigate my unit so I don't travel with these critters. The Bugman came out , he seems very suspect because I caught him in front office talking about me with the maintenance man but he said these black bugs cane in from the palm trees which I had already complained about the tree trimming for the past 4 months . Priscilla new regional manager told me if I could forward her the emails me requesting the tree trimming she would see about getting me some of my money back that I paid for a view of pool & waterfall & got nothing but bugs from these trees. I seen rats run up and down the tree trunk onto the branches
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I know what you might be thinking one star but the place looks great.... And it sure does. That's all this dump has going for it, it's looks. If you enjoy hearing everything your neighbors do and I mean everything from conversations to bathroom routines then move in. If you enjoy the smell of trash when go thru the hallways by all means move here. The "updated" apts are disguised with fresh paint and puddy, which fades way after about month living here. The apts look nothing like the show rooms. Read deep into the past reviews before moveing here.
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DO NOT SIGN HERE! Management is terrible, they had me tour an apt, sign a lease and pay for it, then said the person living there said they want to renew for another year so they had to revoke it. Completely unprofessional, do yourself a favor and go elsewhere or you'll likely suffer a poor outcome
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Absolutely Ghetto The worst experience of my life. The management does nothing about noise except pass the buck back to you.. Overpriced and Under Managed
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This place has nice waterscapes and it's nice having your laundry within your unit. The maintenance personal are friendly. Unfortunately, 3400 does charge extra for parking, $55 a month per vehicle, and at least one/two vehicles get broken into because security is an absolute joke! If you get a bunch of delivers 3400 WILL NOT let you receive packages to your apartment. Instead, 3400 force tennants into a locker parcel system (which will charge you) that has only one location; I have seen many tennants carrying packages across the entire complex (3400 WILL NOT be helpful). The dog park is utterly disgusting, and they say pet friendly only to collect extra money. 3400 DOES NOT use this money to upkeep the dog park; the wood chips were not changed out once in over 15 months. Also, many of the tennants bring their dogs with fleas, and when I first moved in several tennants warned, "3400 had a giardia outbreak." If you are forced to move here enjoy the waterscapes and beware of your personal belongings. 3400 WILL ENTER your apartment WITH OUT notification!!
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Very noisy place unless you live on top floor. My neighbor has parties all the time and I called the security many times. They only gave them 2 warnings because all my other complaints did not get documented. My upstairs neighbor's dog pees on the balcony and it leaked to my. I had taken pictures of the dog pee marks and showed them to the customer service. They sent someone to clean it ones but did not do anything else. Well, dog pees everyday!
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This place used to be good but it all went downhill in the past year. Look at the reviews. I swear this place had a 4 star average at one point but its been rapidly dropping. Security? Nope. Like many other residents here I've also been victim of a car break in. Security cameras are just for show. No one patrols the premisses looking for suspicious activity. Noise? Plenty of it. Street racers, upstairs neighbors, fire alarms... Seriously, the fire alarms have gone off in my building atleast 5 times in the past 8 months. Who's here turn it off at 2am? Management? Nope they're home sleeping. You have to wait for the single security guard inside his soundproof cube to come by, if he's even there... Cleanliness? Look at the pictures in the reviews. Roaches and trash everywhere. Yeah it really looks like that. Good luck keeping your patio clean, you can see right through the slats above or below you. Urine, bird seeds, dirt, trash, all comes through. Parking? All visitor parking has just been eliminated! I guess they needed more money from assigned paid spots. Let's hope they invest in working security cameras and actual security patrol. If you're looking for luxury check out the NEW construction at the Avalon in Irvine or Nineteen01 in Santa Ana. Luxury at this place? not anymore.
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Unless you're desperate or have zero expectations of quality, this place is the worst. The experience got progressively worse coming out of COVID years while more people were moving in. Actual crime and arrests frequently, a literal death in a pond, and the coup de grace was the slimiest exit process that they managed to tell me I owed twice my deposit mostly stemming from them saying we didn't give enough notice about moving out even though we replied to automated messaging saying we weren't and WE LEFT WHEN OUR LEASE WAS UP... Only redeeming staff members are the facilities dudes fixing all the things that kept breaking or I never received in the first place like the smart hub they didn't give me and still charged me for. Borderline illegal landlord/management practices and they know you have no recourse so they do it anyway.
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After living here for now 8 months, I think it's fair to give my honest review of the place. You will love living here if you: - Enjoy hearing every step and move your upstairs neighbors make all day, every day, because the walls and floors are so thin. - Don't like taking hot showers because the water goes cold after two minutes. - Don't mind stepping over dog poop everywhere because a lot of owners don't pick up after their furry ones (this makes me extra sad as a dog mom myself) - Not bothered by literally zero guest parking spots, even after the so-called parking renovation. - Need something from management or the leasing office? Good luck getting in touch with seriously anyone who works here. But if none of that bothers you, this might be an okay place to live!
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My Car was broken in for the 5th time today. I won't even bother reporting this to the office. Why pay a large parking fee when there is zero security?
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DO NOT MOVE HERE. we were there for 4 days and got out of that mess as fast as we could. thank god they have a 30 day period where you can decide to get out of your lease. the gym is nice and so is the pool. but to pay 2000$ and up for a shitty apartment in Costa mesa? yea right. not only that but one of the women who works there is a complete bitch. she was a major factor in why we left. and made some of the small problems much bigger, at first when we did our walk through the apartment didn't look bad. but after we moved in we noticed chipping cabinets, the shower was dirty when we moved in and had rust on the drain, the cabinets were from the 70s, the windows were cheap and stuck when i tried to close or open them, and all of the appliances are so cheap. not even a brand i have heard of. also we were told the street noise wasn't that bad...yea right cars race down that street all night and it sounded like we were in new york city. not to mention a car alarms going off in the parking garage for 30 min at 3am. the garage made it echo nice and loud. but its OK who needs sleep! also when i called corporate to complain about the rude employee who yelled at my husband, they said i would get my deposit and pre paid rent back in 7-10 days. well 12 days later i got a stupid note saying i would get it in 10 days. why not just send the check? it doesn't make sense to me. this whole experience wasn't a pleasant one and they are effecting me even after i moved out. take my advice...you can get something much nicer and cheaper a block from the beach instead of 3400 which is on the border of the ghetto in Costa mesa. RATING IS 0 STARS
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DO NOT MOVE HERE. I am writing this review with immense disappointment regarding the recent changes made by the property management company. The decision to eliminate all visitor parking spaces without notifying tenants is not only infuriating but also a blatant disregard for our rights as paying residents. The new arrangement of 8 inaccessible parking spots at the farthest end of the complex is completely unacceptable. As tenants, we invest a significant amount in rent and an additional $60 per month for parking, expecting a reasonable level of service and communication. Unfortunately, the lack of transparency and communication from the management is beyond frustrating. The sudden removal of visitor parking without any warning is a prime example of their negligence towards the well-being of their tenants. Adding insult to injury, the recent policy change regarding water filters is another disappointment. The fact that tenants are now required to purchase their own water filters, when it was once a complimentary service, is a clear indication of the management's disregard for the convenience and satisfaction of those residing on the property. I use to LOVE living here and now I will not be renewing my lease because they simply do not care about their tenants.
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I have lived here for just about 3.5 years. Let me tell you at first it was great. The property is beautiful and the amenities are great. However, if anything goes wrong in your apartment your on your own. In the last year I have had more things go wrong than I can count. And majority of the service requests are ignored and just shut out with no resolution. I had a leak in my window/wall that I reported and they left for 4 weeks without addressing by the time they did the wall and floors were stained (positive they will try to charge me for that at move out). I also had a leaking sink that they inspected and left leaking and said they completed the service request. I had to put the same request in 4 times before it was resolved 2 weeks later ruining everything under the sink. Same thing with the leaking washing machine. Unless you have the time to go to the office and be loud and angry in front of potential new residents your service requests will not be completed. This is just a short list of the complaints. So I guess my review would be if you are willing/able to fix everything and anything that goes wrong in the apartment this place is pretty nice to live, but for the money you pay they should be jumping to fix everything and you shouldn't be paying for it. I decided not to renew once all these problems started last year. I would not recommend anyone to live here despite the beautiful grounds and amenities.
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!!!! SAVE YOUR LIFE !!!! Don't make the mistake i made and do your research before signing with 3400 avenue of the arts. - the units, hallways and garages stink all the time. consider an air freshening budget for your living room, bedroom and bathroom if you wanted to move here. - bathroom vents don't have an actual pipe taking the air out, there's just a little vent circulating the air inside. so be ready to deal with moisture and stink in your living room. - there is no guaranty for you to get internet out here. Spectrum (formally Time Warner Cable) and AT&T are the *only* internet service providers here and some of the apartments aren't wired for internet access. so you may end up being the lucky one and realize you can't have internet access in your apartment after moving-in.
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i am sooo terrified living here i need help getting out of here cockroaches 4 inches long are all over here i have dealt with it for 5 months now. i have now been crying emotionally distressed the past 3 hours unable to eat the food in my cabinet due to the cockroaches all over and now i have to starve. These are non liveable conditions. someone help me!!!!!!!
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Moved in two months ago in August and it is the worst apartment complex I have lived in. I was super excited to live here based on the beautiful website images but unfortunately, the negatives outweigh the positives​ so far. Yes, the amenities​ are nice (gym, pools, dog park, etc.) but the leasing office staff is horrible and appliances inside our apartment have already stopped working. Two weeks after moving in our Air Conditioning stopped working. Our dishwasher overflows and collects water everytime we use it even though maintenance​ has tried fixing it. They then told us that it is our fault and we should be cutting the dish soap pods in half. We tried that and it still overflowed. Tried cutting them smaller... same result. Now on to our microwave. Upon moving in the only buttons that work on our microwave are the "add 30 seconds" button and the "start" button. We notified maintenance almost a month ago and are still waiting on a new microwave or for someone to fix the issue. Other negatives: 1) A LOT of additional monthly fees that are hidden from you 2) never have i ever been required to pay MONTHLY for parking at my place of residence 3) in our leasing agreement my roommate and I both specified that we wanted outside parking as it is way cheaper and more convenient for my Truck rather than having to park inside the small parking garage. The day we moved in we were told there was only indoor parking for us (which is $50 a month per resident) but that those spots weren't available for a month (September 18th). So we had to park in visitor parking for the first month of living here. We are also still parking in the covered spots and paying a price we did not want but have no choice as there are no outside spots for us. it would have been nice for the leasing office to let us know this when we signed out leasing agreement rather than misleading us and making us pay more money. 4) We have had extra charges on our account since moving in for not giving our electricity and gas accounts to the leasing office the day we singed our lease (BEFORE we even moved in). 3 weeks ago we were told the charges would be removed as we provided proof of payment for gas and electric but the charges are still there even though I have emailed 3 times asking why they are there... no response. 5) no one ever answers the leasing office phone.. one time we called and someone answered, said nothing, and hung up. 6) There was a COCKROACH in my room and they are all over outside in the parking lot and sidewalks. 7) Walls and floors are very thin so be prepared to hear EVERYTHING your next door and upstairs neighbors are doing... even if it's at 5am and you're trying to sleep. 8) Oh and if you want to have things shipped to you.. each resident has to pay a one time $50 fee in order to receive packages???? UPDATE 11/5: extra charges have still not been removed from our account. Also, last weekend my parents came down to visit and they brought our family dog. The day after they got back home they noticed she was sneezing, nose and eyes were running and red, and she was very itchy around her eyes. They took her to the vet and he put her on antibiotics and said she had gotten sick from being on the turf at the dog park and designated areas for dogs to relieve themselves at my apartment. Because turf does not filter properly like real grass does, there is a lot of built up bacteria that can make dogs sick. This makes sense considering residents always leave their pet's poop on the turf for someone else to pick up and it smells horrible all of the time. For people paying $50 a month to keep a pet here, I'd be very upset that the turf areas aren't better maintained to keep their pets from getting sick. I'd move out already if I could but I signed a year lease.
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And we are back to one star. Avoid at all costs. Most faceless, evil company I have ever had the displeasure of being in contact with. Beware, this company makes it standard policy to try and illegally capture as much as your security deposit as possible. They also tack on what they consider standard fees and fines and try to evict you if you don't pay. This happens to almost EVERYONE, not just a few, it's standard practice. I imagine a lawsuit will be in their future. DO NOT LIVE HERE!
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Still finding cockroaches everywhere. Was told last time that I was wrong and they are "water bugs," but they are obviously Roaches and a lot of them. Can't walk outside my building at night without stepping over at least a few. It disgusting. For the second time in 2 months I've had something stolen from the parking garage. The desk girl never responded to my bike being stolen with any additional info and why should I be surprised? She looked put off when I told her. Now my girlfriend's car was broken into and school books were stolen as well as a breathalyzer unit required to start the car. DO NOT MOVE HERE IF YOU VALUE SAFETY AND A BUG FREE ENVIRONMENT. OVERPRICED, UNDER MAINTAINED, HORRIBLE SECURITY.
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why I can't pick zero star! I lost more than 4 packages (more than $1500). And they don't even care about that. The neighbor alway hit the walls when I am talking to my friend( normal voice level) , the walls are just like one piece of paper. And when my smoker friend come visit me, even he didn't somke in side the community. The smell in his cloth will cause a few phone call from the office,And the office only useful in this time. Yes when you lost things in your car or you see some one broken your car windows, or lost packages, just say good luck to yourself and try to move soon.
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AIMCO has the WORST service I've ever encountered. I've lived at 3400 Avenue of the Arts (in Orange County, CA) for almost 2.5 years now. We are moving out around Xmas time and I couldn't be happier! In addition to rent (over $2K/mo.), I pay about $100/mo. for 2 parking spots and we have never missed a payment (including this month). For context, I have found another car parked in my spot probably 7 or 8 times since I've lived here. Every single time it's happened, I have filed a complaint and asked for the car to be towed. And every single time, 3400 Avenue of the Arts (owned by AIMCO) has said that their policy is not to tow the car illegally parked in another resident's spot until they contact the residence associated with the spot and any other residents who may have invited the person with the car to their apartment so that they can get the individual parked in the spot to personally move the car. I've had to park my car illegally for several hours on multiple occasions while they tried to track down who was illegally parked in my spot. Out of those 7 or 8 times I've had to deal with this, the car parked in my spot has only been towed once. And that was with a direct complaint from the person who paid for the spot. Now here's the kicker. My girlfriend switched cars recently and forgot to notify management about her new license plate. She's sick this weekend so parked in her spot Friday night and did not check the car until today (Sunday). She went down to get her car and it was gone and another car was parked in her spot. 3400 towed the car without any complaint from any residents and without contacting the apartment associated with the spot (me). To make matters worse, their management team doesn't work weekends and the leasing office and security personnel do not even have access to the report and cannot do anything about it until Monday. Same goes for AIMCO Corporate headquarters--no one is there over the weekend to deal with your problems. When my girlfriend told the leasing office here at 3400 that she works in Downtown LA (over an hour-long commute) Monday-Friday, 9-5, and can't go to work without her car, the leasing office essentially said you're shit out of luck. They also asked us to "keep it down" because they "are a business" and had "tours they needed to give" to potential new residents. That is how they treat long-standing residents who have never missed a payment for rent or their parking spots. The fact that no one is available to deal with your problems over the weekend is a huge issue with the way AIMCO does things and they often take advantage of the fact that no one is on site to deal with their residents' problems. I regularly find notices on my apartment around 8 or 9pm on Fridays telling me that management needs to conduct an inspection (or some other reason for needing to enter my apartment) the following Monday or Tuesday. They do this intentionally so the residents cannot say no. They don't care whether the day they want access is a huge inconvenience for you or not. BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR RESIDENTS THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY. For example, Friday night at 8pm I found a notice that said they were giving AT&T access to our apartment all day on Tuesday starting at 8am and that we needed to move certain objects around so that they can do work (we aren't even a customer of AT&T). This is unacceptable to me. As I said, my girlfriend has work in LA that entire day and I also have a law school final on that date. I don't have time to move things around for AT&T (because I'm studying for my finals) and I don't want random people in my apartment when neither me nor my girlfriend is present. And keep in mind, we are moving out like 10 days after they want access to the apartment. They could literally wait 10 days and then give unlimited access to AT&T until after we move out. But guess what? I can't speak to anyone at AIMCO or 3400 Avenue of the Arts about this until Monday (the day before they want access to the apartment). Believe me, I've tried. I left a voicemail for the property manager who works at AIMCO's headquarters as soon as I found the letter. No call back. I left a voicemail for the 3400 Avenue of the Arts Leasing Office AND Resident Services. No call back. So to recap, between Friday and Sunday of this week, not only did neither 3400 Avenue of the Arts nor AIMCO call me before they towed my own car parked in my own space (without a complaint and contrary to their own longstanding policy), but they also ignored my phone calls and voicemail about a different issue. I will never rent an apartment from AIMCO ever again and I strongly recommend that you stay away from this terrible corporation and their various properties.
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Have lived here for just over a year now. Solar we have had a bicycle stolen out of the garage and packages stole right from our door step. Management is a joke. This happen under cameras and operations manager Ashley will even refuse to review or respond back to the police once a police report has been filed. We will be moving out and do not recommend anyone to move here. All other reviews are spot on management is a joke and very over priced with what you actually get.
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Moving out of here on Monday, and can't be more excited. Have had cockroach issues since I moved in last April and couldn't be happier to get out of this place!!! So man bug problems like cockroaches, weird clear bugs and spiders pretty much every other day. So disgusting and maintenance doesn't do a thing about it. The amount of problems I've had with this place is beyond me. Last week living here have had 7 cockroaches inside my apartment and I'm so clean and always have my house spotless. Have had mold, bugs, problems with the leading office, been charged for random things and have had problems with parking. Stay far away from this place!!!!!!!!
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I know what you might be thinking one star but the place looks great.... And it sure does. That's all this dump has going for it, it's looks. If you enjoy hearing everything your neighbors do and I mean everything from conversations to bathroom routines then move in. If you enjoy the smell of trash when go thru the hallways by all means move here. The "updated" apts are disguised with fresh paint and puddy, which fades way after about month living here. The apts look nothing like the show rooms. Read deep into the past reviews before moveing here.
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If it wasn't for the constant maintenance issues over the year we lived there (elevators routinely down, garage frequently flooding, gross sewage odor, tree mulching until 6 or 7 PM right outside your windows, jack hammers and concrete saws for hours on Sunday morning, extremely thin floors/ceilings, etc...), we'd probably give them 2 stars instead of 1. Or, if it was only the maintenance issues, we might even give them 3 stars instead of 1. However... We were shown a unit with HDMI ports in the walls for the TV/cable connections. It was a feature that we really liked and a factor in our decision to take this pricier unit. But they never did get the ports working for us. They looked at them 3 times in the first month or two and each time said "We have to have the contractor fix it". That never happened. It just went ignored. They also showed us a brand new fireplace in the unit. But then, after we signed the lease agreement, they told us that we would have to buy the burner kit for it to work ($200). Who's ever heard or that?! Now to add insult to injury... When we moved out, there were a couple of minor scuff marks on the walls. Keep in mind we lived there for barely a year and we're an extremely low impact couple. Most landlords would deem them normal wear and tear. Not here - they called them "damages". And instead of cleaning the marks or doing a touchup, or painting just the affected wall, they charged us to repaint the entire unit. Nor did they give us a chance to clean the marks ourselves - perhaps we could have simply washed them away. When they did the inspection, they told us everything was fine - nothing about scuffs and painting. And then they sent us the bill, including full paint. I'm guessing they took advantage of the opportunity to change the color of the whole unit on our dime. Even if not, charging us to paint the entire unit for 3 small scuff marks (that they didn't tell us about in the pre-move inspection) is ridiculous. After all the patience and tolerance we showed over the fireplace and HDMI ports issues, that's a pretty crappy way to be treated. I regret now not deducting from our rent every month that those things weren't resolved. There are a few nice things about being there: -The location is great -The maintenance staff are really nice people -The grounds are very pretty and enjoyable But, for us anyway, that didn't make up for those issues being neglected for a year and then being egregiously charged on the way out. 12/31/17: After already going back and forth in email with you guys and being told in no uncertain terms that the decision is final (not to mention the unresolved items over the year), why should I contact you now just because you're responding to my Yelp review? No thanks.
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Someone had been parking at my spot for four days in a row, and I had contacted management, security and concierge everyday about this issue with no avail. Ultimately, they were not able to help me tow the car or notify the person to move it even though the spot was 100% mine. Keep in mind this was after FOUR DAYS of constant communication. Again this person parked in my spot last night, and contacting everybody I can again, I am informed nothing can be done until 7pm, which given their history, they just might brush off. Extremely frustrating experience. Basically, be ready to get no service for anything and to have no guarantee to what your paying for. The service has been terrible and though friendly, ultimately not able to solve a very basic issue.
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After living here for the past few months, 3400 had made me to leave another review once more. I would like to talk about how the staff care about your request. I recently had a problem in the parking area. I have parking spot 51 in the G building, and the next one (spot 50) is for COMPACT vehicles only. It used to be a mid-size SUV, but it wasn't a big issue because it parked within his/her parking line. After it changed to a Chevy Tahoe, the car never is parked within the line (it invades to our space). Now we only have very limited parking space that we need to be careful of the pole, and the Tahoe next to us. In addition, we are checking everyday to make sure if Tahoe made any scratches by opening his/her door. I and my wife felt very unpleasant by this parking manner and brought this issue to the office. I have submitted online request regarding this issue. I talked to the parking patrol people at the gate twice, and left a voicemail three times. I couldn't spare a time to go to the office yet. The people in the main entrance gate say this issue is out of their hands. After leaving multiple voice-mails and online request, I received 0 RESPONSE!!! I am leaving this review to get a call from them to resolve this issue (I wish I can make this sentence bold and underlined). This is worse than the worst DMV stories. I understand this parking issue created by other resident is not the management's fault unless the vehicle is owned by them. However, the bigger problem is that the staff cares 0 for you!!!! P.S. I am not faking this issue.
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One word sums up this property...JOKE. Amazing landscaping ( but it's 30 yrs old) and mediocre apartments. Was amazing when first moved in in 2015 but soon after, they hired an office manager starts with M, need I say more. Emotional decisions and petty absurd revenue generating schemes ($150 cabana charges on holidays) that made Aimco look as if they were hurting for money, pretty hilarious. Some good people do work there, Jolanta Erica and Ashley. Too bad they don't hire the same standard for management.
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Don't live here! Unsafe, unclean, illegal activity. Look at ALL posted picture to see unclean environment.
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I live in a J building for almost 2 years, and in the last months we start to have problem in our garage. They steal things from your car and the complex just say "we can not do nothing, please call the police. We pay 55 for a spot and they should be responsable for all the things that happen inside the complex. I just waiting for the end of my contract to move out.
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Don't move here please for the love of god. Roaches, secret charges, and shady business practices. I can't stress enough how bad my experience was here. Horrible management, maintenance, and bug problems. First, secret charges: I moved parking spots to a cheaper spot, and after I spoke with management, they told me that I'm good to change spots and they'll adjust the payments to my lease. COOL. Couple months later, I get a notification telling me that I need to sign some documents from leasing office. It was to sign for the new spot plus the old spot I was paying for??? As soon as I read the print and I asked, the guy literally said "oh, my mistake, you don't need to sign", then why would you tell me I needed to sign? Roaches are a huge problem because people here are not clean. It's disgusting, I hated it. Found a ROACH nearly every day about to die in my apartment. Worst of all, trying to leave this place. 60 day notice, OK, so gotta think fast to find a new place. Gotta pay the rent, plus another two months just to leave, SO expensive. Then I don't get my SECURITY deposit back. Why? "cleaning services". A thousand dollars for cleaning? Mind you before I leave, cleaned the apartment spotless, fixtures, appliances, etc. Worst of the worst? I had to pay for the amount of time that the apartment was not occupied after I moved out. THIS is in the lease, and they don't tell you. So if you leave in JUNE, and no one leases for the month, they prorate it by day, and you still have to pay for gas, water, amenities. You will not get a hold of management after you leave because they no longer provide a product/service since you no longer pay rent. Legal robbery.
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I've lived at 3400 Avenue of the Arts for multiple years, but recent events when my lease is coming to an end have turned my experience into a nightmare. They slapped me with an $847.42 fee. The reason? I didn't give a 60-day move-out notice. They charge more than my daily rent for each day of delay--pure exploitation. To make it worse, they found a new tenant within two days, yet they're still forcing me to pay this extortionate fee. This isn't just unfair; it's downright brutal. If you are considering moving here, think twice. They will exploit you with hidden fees, offer zero support, and make your life difficult with their poor management practices.
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I lived here for over 2 years during that period it was bearable, until my place got flooded by my upstairs neighbor. She refused to give me her insurance information because she claims it is the building fault for not taking care of her bathroom faucet when she called them about the flood. She claims her called them on multiple occasions, went to the office to complain and even called the corporate head office and nothing was done. The office said i should contact my neighbors insurance to take care of my damages. I just got tired and took care of my own damages. The office, however put put me in a hotel for a week while they were fixing my place. I shortly cancelled my lease, I had to pay for early cancellation which was two months rent plus give two months notice. I've been out for a good 6 months and tell me why I keep calling phone calls from the entrance door to my old apt every time someone try to delivery something. Unbelievable!!!!
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Lived here for over three years and had enough of this crappy place due to problems in the last year and half. I canceled my lease and paid big bucks to leave. Why i am leaving: 1. Unclean and filthy living environment. Pet feces and urine everywhere. ( i will try an post 30+ picture if it lets me) trash left everywhere. Carpet stains everywhere in common areas. 2. Weekly car break ins 3. Illegal pregnancy ring run here. It is common to see pregnant Chinese speaking women walking in groups. Property next door was busted by homeland security. Look up in oc register for more info. 4. Pets roam free with large dogs. 5. Much more.... Dont live here!!!! I can provide documentation and pictures for all above mentioned.
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If I had zero stars, I would choose that option. However since they don't, I guess I'll give this place 1. This place has a ton of potential however the management is the worst you will see across your history of renting. First issue is break-ins. Yes they happen everywhere but when you have police called here on a daily basis something is seriously wrong. We even witness the unauthorized visitors breaking into cars and managements response is we cant do anything... Call the police. By that time, they are long gone and go off little evidence since this place has 0 cameras. So huge waste of police and tax payers time. Second issue is their dog park. They are so proud of this dog park that anyone can just walk into. We've had our dogs attacked by visitors and when reported to management, one in particular just rolled her eyes. They don't really care here as long as you pay their rent. ALL ABOUT MONEY HERE. However they invest very little back into the property. Think about it... Renovating an apartment lets you increase rent prices all day long.. of which they do proudly. When it comes to putting up security guards or cameras.. No way. That's an expense. And they do not want to spend money on your protection or comfort level. SIMPLY PUT.....THERE ARE MUCH BETTER OPTIONS OUT THERE!!!
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Absolutely sketchy place now. Look at the reviews. They have serious safety issues, car break ins, charging for guest parking now. When you ask them about it they pretend they have never seen the reviews. They will nickel and dime you to the extreme. They are currently holding part of my application fee hostage. The elevators smell like sewage. The good reviews they are paying for or giving people discount to review. They wont offer you a year lease only 14 or 16 month ones because they want to lock you in as long as possible. Also the rent price is not accurate because they charge extra for parking ($60-$100 per car), pets ($100 per month per dog) and the utilities they overcharge you for. DO NOT MOVE HERE YOU ARE BETTER OFF ANYWHERE ELSE.
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I recently moved and could not get out quick enough! I have been told prior to finalizing my move out charges that the management would contact me, yet I received my final statement and was not contacted once. I reached out 3 separate times, in person, to attempt to talk to the manager...no luck. 1. The community requires you to mount your TV, yet they don't provide anyone to help you. I was charged $70 to fill wall mounting holes where the TV was mounted. 2. Now they charge $55 for parking!!! Not monitored and I know this place is has had several break-ins. No thanks. 3. I was charged $110 to reprint the apartment. Nowhere in my lease does it state that the move-out tenant has to pay for paint. No damages, no pets, only wall hangings (considered normal wear-tear). 4. I attempted to rent a room for a baby shower for $250 for the day however, my guests were not allowed to use the pool. What am I paying for?! I understand no parties and the pool gets crowded, but if I'm paying then I should have access to the pool for my guests. Overall, they will nickel and dime you, unprofessional management, and honestly I didn't feel safe towards the end of my lease. I have recently moved to a new managed complex and couldn't be happier at Boardwalk by Windsor.
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Please please read everything if you're really considering this place. Listen to the reviews left here on yelp. The reviews on the official 3400 site are nothing but great.. haha HOW I FOUND 3400: I came across this place driving by and was wowed by the water fountains, exterior of the building where i could have a nice walk. Felt like a peaceful neighborhood. I checked out their website and booked a tour on the same day. I was wowed again for them having rock climbing, theatre, gym. Mind you none of this is open because of covid. They also have a pond/lake where you can take a walk, 2 separated Bon fire pits, a picnic area and their huge dog park which was really what convinced me. I moved in August 31st 2020. PHYSICAL TOUR: When i took the physical tour, it was great. Everything seemed to be cleaned and maintained. Saw a lot of greenery which i loved. The staff seemed very friendly. You would really think nothing is absolutely wrong with this place. Like why would you listen to the bad reviews. This place does make you feel like you're at some kind of resort. -- With the outside maintenance i would honestly give it a 5 star. ELEVATOR/ STAIRS: When you go on the tour, i suggest that you request to go up through the elevator and down the stairs because you WILL be using the stairs which for some reason just give you a bad vibe. At least on building E.They have 2 elevators but there is always one that is not working and the other is being used by others. PARKING ENFORCEMENT/SAFETY; OH MY GOD i have had the worst luck with this. I was given an outside the complex, uncovered $40 parking far from building E (my apartment building). no big deal right? Let me tell you IT IS A BIG DEAL! It's a big deal when you come home from work after a long day just to find different cars parked on your spot. if not every day , EVERY OTHER DAY. You are paying for the parking but you are not guaranteed to be parked at your own spot. You have to race someone else to your parking. IT IS ABSURD. You can find visitor spots scattered around inside the buildings and some in between resident parkings which is so weird and to me it is not the safest because really anything can happen. Damage to the car and you wont have any possible idea of who it could've been. I say that because they LACK SECURITY/CAMERAS. one of the times that my own parking was taken, I had to park at a visitor spot and MY CAR WAS BROKEN INTO. Just 2 months from when i had moved in. I contacted the leasing office and they told me to file a police report so that they can access cameras. WTF thats when i found out they don't have cameras which is why there are way too many break ins. But they don't tell you that of course. So i filed the report and that was the end of it. Absolutely nothing was done from 3400 regarding the break in. All they tell you is that they have enforced parking regulations and whatnot. ITS A LIE. i met other people and were told the same thing months before me. I think they have literally a couple security patrols to run through all sides of 3400. I have seen them at night and no they are not walking. They're on a patrol cart and they are not looking into any gaps in between any cars for suspicious activity. They are going in and out. I have noticed that plenty of times. I have another parking that was given to me because i have 2 cars. This one was underground garage parking. it was free until the end of the year. NOT MY LEASING YEAR. They said that by January 1st 2021 i should have another. YOU have to contact the leasing office for that. They will not contact you. They will just charge you the $60 that every garage cost. i contacted them 2 or 3 days before January but by that time, the charge was already on my rent statement which i was fine because i admit i was late. Right away I asked for an uncovered $40 parking to start February & to avoid another $60 charge. They freaking sent me outside of the complex again where i had the many issues and way further than the first parking which by the way i did switch. After going back and forth with them, they said I can have this # parking. i said ok thinking it was an uncovered $40 parking like i had requested. Feb came and i sent the leasing office a picture of a car that was parked on the #given. Turns out they gave me another $60 parking garage #. so now i'm stuck with that one for this month too. currently working on getting another parking. I recommend not getting a garage parking because other people park on your spot anyway and there are way more brake ins because no one can see. Your car is safer out where others can see. PAYING RENT- Best to send a check to the address they provide with an additional $10 processing fee. They charge a $78 processing fee for ANY card payment EVERY MONTH,EVERY TRANSACTION. I have tried debit & credit but there is no difference even though they say there is. But they wont tell you about that fee. Reply for any Questions
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This place is disgusting, unprofessional and we have problems every single day with the people who live here. The whole building alarm goes off randomly at 7 A.M at least once a week. Do not waist your money here!!
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Do not move here. Your car will be stolen, vandalized or broken into. I moved in here June of this year. Since that time my car was stolen. I went to the management office and nobody seemed to care. There are no surveillance cameras in the parking structures even though there is a sign that says there are. They have no intention of putting them in. Security never patrols the parking garage. Management has been made aware that there is a gap in bars in the parking structures where the vandals may be getting in. They say they will take care of it but two months later nothing is done. When the police came down they let me know that there have been multiple cars stolen and many breaking into cars here. They stated it was a big problem here and they were very familiar with the complex and complaints of cars being stolen and broken into. Emails to management office are just ignored. Once I did get my car back I had to park the car outside in the visitor parking because whoever stole it ruined my car and I had to get it towed. We'll while it was parked outside someone ran into my driver side fender and put a huge dent in my fender. They did not bother to leave a note. This complex is also very noisy. Elevators and doors into the building constantly breaking. I will be asking to be let out of the remainder of my lease.
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The management of this property emails the residents and encourage them to write positive reviews on Google or Facebook and have the chance of winning a $1000 gift card in a lottery. Don't get fooled by the positive reviews here. This property is owned by a large publicly traded property management company that couldn't care less about residents' "experience" as long as they keep having the money rolling in. This property was built 30+ years ago and is just a nightmare in a lot of ways. Probably the biggest ongoing problem is how dirty everywhere is and how little the management cares about keeping the property clean and refreshing the 30+ year old look of the property. Nice amenities and good location though.
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The first week: I was asked to change my move in date til later cause the apartment wasn't ready. Had to call maintenance for the washer not working, twice, cause the first time wasn't properly fixed. Had to call for water leakage from the under the sink and the dishwasher. After a couple of months, the heat from the dishwasher literally destroyed the cabinets surrounding them and they were never replaced although a maintenance request was placed. Nonsense charges prior to move out. Returned the keys a month before lease due date and besides rent and full utilities, got charged for VACANT fee. Returned apartment with every detail clean, just to be charged for cleaning fee. There charges state damage to "living room door" but there is non. But every door is listed with "damage". Just ridiculous.
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Putrid service, unprofessional management. I would avoid this incredibly dysfunctional community like the plague. From the day I had to sign the lease online three times to the late service calls, their rude and unprofessional management staff, lack of professionalism, hidden fees and pathetic customer service. Its by far the most misleading and bizarre place to live in Orange County. Don't even bother to visit and if you do "caveat emptor" aka buyer beware!
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I lived here for 2 years and I will not renew my upcoming lease due to the new parking restructuring. They removed all visitor parking from building B and placed 20 visitor spots on the other side of the community. And they sent an email out this week announcing that they will charge for visitor parking in the near future. I just had a baby and I have a caregiver that comes over everyday. I will have to pay for their daily parking once this new project is complete. Capitalism and greed by upper management!
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Very hard delivery package for this apartment.
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Me and my wife filled out an application for this place as it does look really nice. I got a call from the staff stating there were major problems with my background check. This took me by surprise as I know there are no problems but thought may have been a victim of identity theft or something. The staff asked me to submit a scanned copy of my drivers license and after I did they informed I was a match to unfavorable background check. now I was irate and curious and asked them to submit a copy of this background check to me. Not only did they failed to give me a background check but was given the run around by the the Manager Matthew Comicz. Finally an employee read the results of the background check to me and stated it was all clear and that they made a mistake. I escalated this to Jill Dorflinger, the Director of Operations at AIMCO corporate office and she refused to refund us our background check fees in spite of this being their error. This corporation and the people mentioned here are not only unjust but borderline engaged in illegal trading with customers. Attorneys would love to pick up my case but I don't have the time to continue pursuing this garbage. STAY AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE AND AIMCO
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"Luxurious Costa Mesa Living" There is frequently dog piss, beer cans, or spit in the elevators -- when they are working. The gym looks nice but is kept at roughly 77 degrees on good days and can be around 79-80 on worse days. Droves of steroid fueled bros congregate at the pool with red solo cups braiding each other's hair and listening to miley cyrus or whatever it is that they like. The inside of my unit looks nice, but i can usually hear my neighbor's stupid useless pocket dog. Don't move here.
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I'm living in this community, and I pay $55 month for one spot in a garage with "locked and security" gate. For 2 sequence week, someone stolen things INSIDE the car and inside the garage. The leasing office just said apologize. If you don't want it pay the garage, you can't have a car for live here. Of course I'll move out.
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You think you are moving into a wonderful community and that the office and staff members will take care of you, since this is suppose to be a place called home. I only lived in these apartments for 5 months and I've had constant problems and miscommunications from day 1 till I left. I moved in with a rat problem that wasn't taken care of right away, I almost had to call vector till I told them I would, and all of a sudden they took care of it. I had a rat problem yet again at the end of my move and no one helped. And we pay for pest control? Trying to charge me for amounts that are unnecessary, wrong explanations on the paperwork and trying to cover themselves up by verbal wording. The staff has poor communication with one another and can't get anything correct. I am being talked down to when I was trying to move out and finalize correct paperwork and their own staff manager( I'll save your name) even said to me why didn't you talk to me, am I suppose to go through 3 different people to get to you when I'm being told by one gal they can take care of me and from what I believe are giving me correct information. I am deeply sorry that I have to stoop this low and write the truth as I'm still dealing with correct paperwork and charges after I had already moved out. You treat your residents as if we are checking in and out of a hotel, only wanting costs and don't care what we have to say or that this is or was out home. You all know who you are and because of you, you cost your review to be poor for the people who probably take their time to make sure everything goes well. There's more to say but I won't reveal or your dirty mishaps.
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Renters beware. The only thing good about this complex is the maintenance guys are so nice. But other than that, super overpriced, the managers or rental team take days sometimes weeks to respond to any updates or request. There's always alarms going off in the buildings, you have to pay an extra fee just to get your mail. They offered no credit on the amenities during covid since we couldn't even use them. Read the fine print and good luck
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Just tried to view one of the units/get a tour of the complex, and never got to see anything. Had an appointment at 1pm, and had to wait. Fine. 45 minutes later, the woman who we had the appointment with (Netta?) finally finished with the other people she was helping, and started helping some other women who had just walked in. Not cool. When I told them how long we had been waiting, that we had an appointment at 1p, and that we were leaving, the receptionist and Netta just stared at me blankly. Since we were sitting there for 45 minutes, we had time to observe the staff. Receptionist wasn't friendly, it took one guy at least 15 minutes to pick up a package, and overall, we didn't get a good feeling from them. The grounds were nice, but customer service was seriously lacking. Also, why take appointments if you're going to make people wait 45 minutes?
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i should have read these reviews before the office staff are very unprofessional the apts represent luxury living and say they can accommodate residents needs. well this apt gives fob keys for entry to the complex pool gym etc so monday my fob was not working that means i can not get into my building the pool or gym without calling security which is very very inconvenient!! so i call the office and tell them.. they said bring it into the office we will fix it right away so tuesday i go and the front desk girl said the computers were down and it guy was working on it so they could not fix my fob wednesday i go into the office again and another agent lady tells me that the front desk girl is out to lunch and she is the only one that can activate the fob i explained how inconvenient this is for me and told her they should have extras for residents when situations like this happen all she stated was they didnt have any extra sorry for the inconvenience she told me to leave my fob with her / the office they will activate it when the front girl comes back from lunch and they will leave it with security so when i drive thru the gate the security will have it so i said ok. well i get home ask the security and of course they said office didnt leave anything for me with them. so today is thursday i called the office to ask why my fob wasnt left with security the staff said it was because there systems were still down and the it guy was there working on it i said wait that wasnt the excuse yesterday and why didnt the office give me a courtesy call to let me know the fob wont be with security because they werent able to fix it she apologized and said she will give me a call as soon as they are able to fix it. so i am beyond frustrated residents that live here should not have to be going thru this especially for the amount of rent we pay the office should have back up fobs so that residents never ever have to go thru inconvenience like this i pay $2600 in rent have to walk all thru the parking lot to the front door to call my ph ((mind you i am a single mom to toddles so very inconvenient especially when my parking spot is right infront of the back door but you need a fob to go thru))) to let myself into my apt building cant use the pool or gym unless i go grab a security to let me in. i do not recommend living here i can not wait until my lease is up so i never have to deal with this nightmare again!!!!!!!
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This place was great. It is a shit hole now. I have no clue what kind of people they rent this place out to. Many look scary weird and I feel unsafe even though this is a supposedly gated community. There is a big chain of all Asian pregnant women who come and live here on month to month lease basis and leave after the child gets US citizenship. The management just wants to MAKE MONEY! I lived here more than 3 years. The falls are paper thin, i can hear the guy on top floor having sex. The lady below me is a chainsmoker(in the so called non smoking apartment) who literally chokes me when i pass the patio. Even after complaining many times, nobody cares. The management Matthew Comic is trying to EXTORT MONEY from residents through all ways possible. First is to come random check on patio and fine u insane amount if there is anything in the patio. (not that I had experienced this). The worst is remove all the outdoor visitor parking spots and convert them to money making reserved parking spots. My husband used to pay $25 to park his car(I believe once u rent an apartment the management should provide parking, how else would anyone live) For a car you need to pay $35 for uncovered spots where you have 99% chance of your car getting vandalized. Else pay $55 for covered parking which makes no sense. I dont know wtf has happened to amico management that they can go to any lows to make residents unhappy. Probably it is a way to force out current residents, increase the prices for the apartments to make more money and then add extra costs for other scape goats. The facilities here have also deteriorated over the years. Stop harassing your residents!!
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Terrible Security!! 6 Edgars were doing nitrous loud af outside the main gate for almost 2 hours. Called Security three times and it took them an hour to show up. Next time do yourself a favor and just call the police.
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RUN away from this place! I work in property management and understand what the cleanliness standards are for turn-over as well as what California law will and will not allow property managers to charge for. Out of my $1000 deposit, I received $300 back. I spent an ENTIRE DAY deep cleaning this apartment, including the screens, windows, and jams. I did not receive a single invoice for work done in the home. In addition, if they take out the carpet and replace with another type of flooring, THEY CANNOT CHARGE YOU FOR THE UPGRADE. They missed the memo, because they changed my apartment to the wood vinyl in the living/dining room which had to match up with the entry and kitchen, and charged me for all of that! They kept the carpet in the bedrooms and charged for the shampoo of that. The day of my move out, they actually left me a nasty voicemail about how my keys were not turned in and they would be charging me. I called back and said I put them in the drop box and Yolanta told me that there is no possible way because she checked. After having a screaming match with her (great customer service- she yelled at me and called me a liar), I received an apologetic phone call from their service manager saying he went in early and grabbed my keys to start the turn. No surprise-- if they can't communicate with each other, they certainly are not goingt to know how to address residents, prospects, or former residents. The people here are just plain awful. The apartments are refurbished and falling apart. Though the amenities are really appealing, save yourself the headache of miserable parking- The Enclave is WAY better.
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!!!! SAVE YOUR LIFE !!!! Don't make the mistake i made and do your research before signing with 3400 avenue of the arts. - the units, hallways and garages stink all the time. consider an air freshening budget for your living room, bedroom and bathroom if you wanted to move here. - bathroom vents don't have an actual pipe taking the air out, there's just a little vent circulating the air inside. so be ready to deal with moisture and stink in your living room. - there is no guaranty for you to get internet out here. Spectrum (formally Time Warner Cable) and AT&T are the *only* internet service providers here and some of the apartments aren't wired for internet access. so you may end up being the lucky one and realize you can't have internet access in your apartment after moving-in.
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READ THE NEGATIVE REVIEWS (here and other websites)! DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE SIGNING/PAYING ANYTHING! Looking for a temporary home and just like most people, I was wow-ed by the amenities. Fortunately, I read all the reviews before I signed the lease. Dodged a bullet for sure! Ashley Dunn was the person we interacted throughout this process. (see below and picture). I evaluated all the negative reviews and noticed that the complaints share common themes--poor management (doesn't take complaints seriously, not responsive), unsafe (theft), and bad neighbors (loud, rude, and dirty). The amenities are not worth 12 months of unsafe and uncomfortable living. Ashley Dunn was the one helping us and as soon as I explained that I won't be leasing there anymore because I was concerned for our safety, she stopped responding to all of my emails. I have not gotten the security deposit back that we paid without signing the lease. Other reasons why we won't lease here: This place charges you for everything! Parking is $40-$60 per car per month but the reviews say that car theft happens all the time. All utilities are out of your own pocket which ranges $200 or more a month on top of rent. Not visitor friendly (reviews about visitors getting towed). Watch out for the spikes when you come in, it will puncture your tires both ways. We never saw the apartment when we did the tour (reviews on cheap furniture, thin walls, maintenance issues). Maintenance is not responsive (so we don't want to risk losing our security deposit if maintenance doesn't do their job). Other reviews on racism and unruly neighbors. All of this for what? To live in Costa Mesa? There are better places in SoCal. Found a place by the beach with great amenities and management for cheaper price. This place is all a facade but don't be fooled! If you are a current resident or have done business with them, you have rights! Consult with a lawyer and take legal action. Don't let them bully you for your money or let them compromise your safety.
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Avoid at all costs. There are very few pros with this complex, but, in the interest of fairness, I'll disclose those first. In general: (1) the on-site management staff (not the HQ AIMCO staff) are responsive and helpful in resolving issues; (2) the grounds are nice . . . with the exception of the main pool area (more on that in a minute); and (3) the apartments can be large - depending on the floor model. Cons I. Common Areas are Dirty The main pool is not taken care of and frequently has debris floating in, and on top of it. The residents trash the cabanas and leave food and beverage waste everywhere with the assumption that "someone else" will pick it up. The residents leave trash in the hallways and in the garages - the garage trash, in particular, is rarely, if ever, picked up unless it is in the always overflowing trash can near the elevator entrance. This is the case in the C building where I lived - I'm assuming it is the same in all buildings. Residents let their pets urinate and defecate in the hallways and in the garage - in particular, there have been large, numerous, piles of dog diarrhea and puddles of urine near the entrance into the building from the C building garage which are difficult to avoid stepping in. The on-site manager finally sent an email out about this after approximately a month of it going on. II. Water Issues The C building garage floods anytime it rains and, in the lower level, the water leaks from cracks in the ceiling . . . rad. The water puddles in the garage for weeks after it has rained indicating a drainage issue. American cockroaches - which the management euphemistically call, "water bugs" (a totally different, but equally nasty species) - abound. They love water (the complex has a ton of fountains, pools, grass watering, flooded garages, etc. - even when SoCal is still in a drought) and hate cold weather - i.e., they like to hang-out in warm apartments and are disgusting. III. Smoking The complex claims to be "smoke free;" however, many of the residents chose to ignore this. The participants/beneficiaries in the large Chinese anchor baby/birth tourist operations, which are involved in a huge number of residences and on-site commercial kitchens/food delivery services, smoke cigarettes like the world is going to end tomorrow. The college and high school students enjoy smoking marijuana on their balconies and share the second-hand fumes with their neighbors for free (how generous). The residents CAN be penalized, but, only if the cracker-jack security personnel (more on that) "catch" them in the act. IV. Security Issues As noted by other current, and former, residents, security is a MAJOR issue in this complex. Several weeks ago SEVEN vehicles were burglarized while parked in garages which are WITHIN the gated community. The gates into the community - both the car gates and the pedestrian gates - frequently malfunction, so, no surprise re the break-ins. Most of the security personnel do not look at people driving in to the community too, so, there is that issue as well. When calling security, it often takes them a while to respond and they may go to the wrong building when responding to an issue. By the time they actually do respond, the issue - such as the smoking noted above - is no longer actively occurring . . . the residents just wait until security leaves and then start smoking, partying outside at 1130PM on a week day, etc. V. Security Deposit Issues Don't expect your full security deposit back - AIMCO HQ WILL find a way (whether legal or not) to ding you. For example, I agreed to the $145 cleaning fee before move-out since I didn't want to buy their special cleaning chemicals/do it myself. However, AIMCO also decided to charge me $123.96 for painting. Upon calling AIMCO to discuss this issue, they had several lame excuses regarding the charge and claimed that there were "several scuffs and a smudge" which necessitated the fee. I explained that, under California law - specifically, Cal. Civ. Code s. 1950, and the California Department of Consumer Affairs' Guidelines for Landlords (available here: http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/sec-deposit.shtml) - these "scuffs" were "ordinary wear and tear." The AIMCO employee responded, "that's not our interpretation." I said, "you don't abide by California law?" No response. I then asked if holes from pictures were "ordinary wear and tear," and whether "residents should be alerted not to hang pictures lest they lose their security deposit." I received a lame, completely arbitrary answer: "picture holes are ok, scuffs are not." Had I known of this "policy" I could have wiped the scuffs off with a sponge and a cleaning product. This "policy" is explained nowhere in the lease, on AIMCO's webpage, on 3400's webpage, or by management. It is arbitrary and not explicitly stated anywhere. BEWARE!!!!
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This place might look all shiny and luxurious on the outside, but they are deceiving you. Absolutely ridiculous fees they tact onto your lease and continue to add things throughout your stay with them. Would not recommend this apartment if my life depended on it! Stay far away from this complex and warn others as well. They'll take your money but can't even guarantee that your car won't get broken into on their own property!
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3400 looks great from the outside and the location and amenities are very appealing however the last 15 months have been horrible. My experiences may be rare and others might have had a wonderful experience living there- lucky them! I would rate this place Negative 5 if I could. Please consider the following before renting. 1. Management is a joke. I've spoken to them on several occasions about issues and they may make an initial attempt to fix the problem however they do not follow through to manage the issue and make sure it doesn't happen again. 2. Neighbors are rude, loud, lazy and self entitled. Everyone pays a premium to live here however some believe they are living in a hotel and don't need to pick up after themselves. Expect the following from the neighbors. a) dog shit/piss in the lobby for someone else to clean it. The best is the dog shit in the summer left in front of the building so the smell of hot shit wafts up into your apartment. b) rubbish left in the lobby, halls, elevator, front of building, in the garage and stairwells; this includes dog shit, vomit, spilled drinks, food, milkshakes, and large pieces of furniture for you to maneuver around. c) Rubbish bins: neighbors too lazy to open the bin door and just set it in the room to pile up and smell. Or they jam large bags in the bin and block the chute. d) the small asian community are all related somehow yet they live in different buildings so when they want to see each other they yell from outside for several minutes until their family member throws their keys from the balcony to let them in; not sure why they dont use the call box - apparently yelling is more effective late at night or early in the morning. 3. Front gate and lobby entrance "security" is a joke. People follow you through the front gate and also follow you into the building - nice to know a potential murderer is locked in the elevator with you. 4. Dog regulations don't exist. I've seen illegal breeds, encountered several aggressive dogs and the owners can't control them. the dog park is ALWAYS full of shit and when you report it to management they expect YOU to monitor who is not picking up after their dog by taking photos of them or describing them and their dog. I was told the park was cleaned every day, that is not the case. expect a few vet bills from exposure to dog feces and who knows what else! 5. Baby Ring. this is a fun one. there are several pregnant asian girls who all live in the pent houses. They walk in a group around the property followed by an older asian man or woman. they all get in a van in the morning and go 'somewhere' together. Supposedly this issue has been brought to the FBI however nothing illegal was discovered. If you have several complaints from your residents about how uncomfortable this situation is - why do you continue to rent to these people? 6. Move in: we were told that the apartment was move in ready and that we could not push the move in date out. After paying double rent our first month, on the day of move in the list of issues was so extensive that I had to have formal conversations with management/maintenance about misrepresenting "move in ready". We encountered on our first day, several broken appliance, clogged toilets, several things were falling apart, including an item that fell from above and landed on my roommates head! The mold in my bathroom was never properly cleaned, instead they simply painted over it and now it's seeping through no matter how much I try to clean it. Our compensation? one professional cleaning service. awesome. 7. Floors/ceilings/walls are very thin. Upstairs neighbors seem to be either descendents from a rare hippo/human breed who stomp so loudly at all times of the day OR they simply don't have toes and walk on their heels. They also seem to exhibit super human strength because the force at which they open doors, drawers and cabinets is just as loud as when they shut them. I can also hear their cell phone on vibrate and you can imagine what else. if you complain about noise, security asks to enter your apartment to listen to the noise, WTF?!! I should also mention the barking dogs and crying kids that don't shut the fuck up! 8. Landscape/property maintenance. be prepared to hear weed wackers/leaf blowers before 8am M-S. also if you happen to be in the dog park when the leaf blower comes through - beware, he doesn't care you are there and will continue to blow shit all around you. Ultimately this gated community is only meant to keep the bullshit inside so as to not let it creep out into society. DO NOT LIVE HERE or you will regret it.
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These assholes are thieves. I have to take them to court in order to get my security deposit back of $616. After confronting them on not receiving it they claim to loose it in the mail and then make you jump through all these hoops signing an affidavit and getting it notarized. After you do that and send it in they always claim to have not received it. They won't return your calls or emails when it comes to them owing YOU money but gladly jump on you when you owe. Looks like we have to let the state of California decide this one!
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As much as i pay here and look how they have the bathrooms they Dnt fix them they put bags on them to try and stop the leaks then a week later u have to do another service request and they Still take another 2 days to come fix it and if u Dnt tell then u just want a new one they try and Mickey Mouse it and there on there way out like are you kidding me ......
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I would give this place no stars if I could. I've been at this apartment for 5 months now and it has been absolutely terrible living here. I moved here excited for this next chapter and was I wrong. My first couple of months I had to deal with dog pee leaking from the patio above me. It took them 2 months to seal our patio after we had to clean dog pee every morning, and our brand new patio furniture getting on our chairs. I have a doctors note for a emotional service animal that they have denied multiple times and are asking for way too personal or information I'm comfortable of sharing. I find clothes in the trees at least once a week from the neighbors above. And it sits in the trees until I have to call for a service request to get them out of the trees. I've had guest over and they are shocked with what they see. This is a smoke free complex yet I find cigarette butts on my BBQ and patio furniture every single day. Every time I have a problem I have to walk down to the leasing office multiple times for them to fix it or acknowledge there doing something about it. The communication is terrible. I've never been so disappointed and ready for this lease to be over with. I question breaking my lease every day just so I can get out of this dump. Never been treated this way and never had this kind of terrible service. There's many other apartment complexes that are better maybe even cheaper. If you want any kind of advice DO NOT MOVE HERE!!
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Where should I start?? Thin door walls where you hear your everything of people living next to you, garbage everywhere, ignorant neighbors where they left their old furniture at the alley where emergency exit doors are located, constant break-ins to your car eventhough you parked in garage (happened to me once), your apartment's temperature will most likely a lot warmer than outside...cause of the way they design this buildings? Loud Race and doughnuts noise at 2:00AM where you try to get some sleep! If you visited this community...read this review please!! It's ok to live somewhere if you find somewhere which 100sqf smaller and $200 more than what 3400 is offering you! Cause you will stuck here 12 months! At least you don't worry about ohh tomorrow morning "if I will find my car damaged with a broken window" and the people at leasing office will tell you; we can't do anything if people are bad and want to break in your car...(while they don't accept that their gate doors are always open and have problems) Don't sign a lease and run away!!!! What ever they offer you! You will be living with stress! Does it worth it? It's your call! But a home should be where you feel safe and not worry issues I listed! It's ok to pay a little extra guys (btw this place is not cheap)
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This is place has the WORST management I've dealt with in any setting. Since the minute we moved in, the manager Matt seemed to have it out for us, even though we never officially met him. First they tried denying our 2 pets emotional support paperwork and charged us the pet deposit AND monthly fee for both pets. It wasn't until about 2 months later and a lot of persistence on my part and bad Yelp reviews, that they returned our deposit and monthly fees, ultimately accepting that my pets emotional support stuff was legit from the beginning. He caused so much emotional and financial stress for me and my bf. During this whole ordeal Matt never once gave us the respect of talking to us directly, he was always acting snobby and too busy even if we were standing right in front of him. He only ever spoke to my bf to ask him if he can tell me to take my Yelp post down. When we moved in they promised new cell phone antennas to be installed on the property, that was a lie! There is absolutely no cell service in that whole place, very embarrassing when we had company over, no ones phones worked unless we gave them our wifi. There were more than 10 car break ins, including 2 in our truck in the parking garages, when we reported it to them they told us that we needed to call our renters insurance because it was not their responsibility... umm.... ok... thanks for making us feel safer!!! Pftt. On one occasion the parking structure gate wasnt working and it came down on the bed of our truck scratching and damaging it, also said they were not responsible for that and we should call our renters insurance. We were also warned by more than one maintenance personnel about HOMELESS people. They apparently sleep in the stairways, and even caught some having sex there! They caught some homeless sleeping in vacant apartments as well.. They also tell you the complex is "RENOVATED".... YEA IN 2008!! How can you call that renovated? The heater/ac system sounds just as loud as an old generator which drove me crazy. This place is not renovated! Our lease ended on March 4th, which is the day we turned in our keys, we had zero intention on renewing our lease with a property whose management is so rude and difficult/impossible to work with. We eventually got a call from Ashley at the office telling us there will be a fee to pay because we didnt notify them that we were leaving 60 days before. So we called the Corp. Office to get more info where they told us Matt had placed a "BLOCK" on our account so we wouldn't be able to renew even if we wanted to, later after that call Matt took the block off. Then suddenly we find out he took the block off in order to charge us the fee for not notifying 60 days ahead. THE FEE IS 3K!! minus our deposit. How can you charge us that fee when technically we werent allowed to renew in the first place???? This is complete misuse of power within the company. It feels like Matt is personally trying to come after us. For what? We never had a complaint or warning and always paid rent on time... very confused. Does Matt do this to everyone? And if he does who is allowing him to continue working there?
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This community genuinely sucks, not worth living in at all. Majority of residents suck, people steal packages and food deliveries. Management sucks, they're negligent and seem to not care at all about the comfort and safety of their residents. The walls in my unit aren't even straight, the floors are not even close to flat. For months straight and years prior, cars were getting broken into with smashed windows and cut convertible tops with no action taken by management. Homeless people were hanging out in our garages leaving trash and feces everywhere. The shower in my bathroom flooded leaving other peoples urine and feces all over my bathroom and leaked into my closet and outside the unit, ruining my clothes and other belongings. Management did the bare minimum to resolve this and promised to compensate me for damages but never did. The maintenance team also instructed me that they would need to remove all the drywall that was affected to avoid any mold growth, however, management told them not to as it was "unnecessary". They have put my health at risk and did nothing to compensate me for damages. On top of all this poor management, they just did a huge "parking upgrade" and just repaved the asphalt and removed all visitor parking spaces and moved them to outside the gates and now charge money for visitor spaces. As if this doesn't sound dumb enough, there are thousands of units and only about 10 visitor spaces now. You now have to download an app and pay money just to have a guest or family member visit you, makes no sense. My one unit pays over $3500 to this community yet they continue to grab for more money while providing the bare minimum comfort and security to residents. I would advise not living here until management learns how to use their heads and delegate money properly.
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Don't sign a lease here if you are black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, or any type of minority. You will be looked down and neglected. Rude management!! I live here for over 3 years. Never encountered any management staff who was willing to help. Felt like they thought they were better than residents. Especially, one blonde girl who occasionally worked events and front desk never smiled and always looked annoyed that she had to deal with me. One day, I was going to the pool and forgot my wristband. The pool was empty and I have been going to the pool often that I decided to just take a chance. On the way over, I said hi to the guys who sit in front of the climbing wall. He asked for my wristband despite of seeing me every weekend. When I told him I forgot and I would remember next time, he made me go back home and get it. You don't have balls to ask people who are visiting to show wrist bands. And you pick on someone who actually lives there and takes care of the faculties with a care. I don't have to pay gobs of money to deal with people who think they are better. So I left. I would check out other new apartments in the area, if you are considering this place.
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By far one of the worst apartment complexes I lived at in Orange County. Both gates never work, the elevator codes never work. The elevators were broken month after month. Very unsafe! Mold in my shower, A/C went out over & over. Noisiest apartment complex next to the fire station. Leasing agents never help, parking is horrible here. Don't park anywhere else you will get towed, this place is horrendous. I've been a real estate for 10+ years and I would never recommend my clients of any friend / family to live here. Stay far away from 3400 avenue of the arts. Terrible.
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This place only looks nice from the outside. The truth is that it's a disgusting place to live. There is dog feces everywhere because nobody picks up after their dog. I have a 4yr old that is constantly stepping in poop when we go out on evenings walks around the complex. THEY CHARGE FOR PARKING!! I did not believe it when they said that parking was not included, not only is it not included but the prices keeps getting jacked up every so often. They removed all visitors spots and replaced them with paying spaces now. The refrigerator water filter they make THE TENANTS PAY..ridiculous if you ask me. The G floor is a complete mess and full of beer cans that nobody cleans and yet they upgraded my parking to "premier" there is nothing premier about that G level. The homeless keep hanging out under my balcony and as much as I complain they do NOTHING about it, my car was broken into and when I reported it to them they said they couldn't do anything not even show me the cameras to try and figure out who did it. There is tons of break ins reported to peoples cars here..PLEASE DO NOT GET SOLD ON THE SUPERFICIAL LOOK OF THIS PLACE.
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Should have never moved here, Its really sad because i was SO excited to move in, I have had to call the police for noise complaints because security would never do anything, the complex is very pricey, the management treats you like your a child, and are very disrespectful. Even though my southern california edison account was active and set up, their records showed I had not told them my account number SO what did they do? SENT me a bill for $800 as an "inconvience fee" I was also sent a bill for $1,900 for a pet that i DID NOT have, because they heard barking coming from the floor i was living on. I had to have my lawyer send letters to get the charges off my account. The staff is super rude and called me a liar about my edison account, only to have her find out the real truth she looked embarrassed. Not to mention all the ant problems, and leaks from my ceiling they REFUSED to fix because it was from "the guest bathroom" above me and they never had any guests so, it wouldnt ever be a problem again. UMMM REALLY???? my lease IS NOT UP till the end of april and i have already moved out two weeks ago to a stunning CONDO in irvine for much cheaper than that awful place they call a community. How horrible. Oh, and I was told I was getting a different apartment than they actually gave me they tricked me into saying i was on the quiet side of the complex, but they really put me on the busy side of sunflower. So dont ever expect to sleep in past 7 due to the busses coming and going.
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Two weeks ago someone attempted to steal my motorcycle out of the garage. I made a report with the office and police. The office said they would get back to me after they review the security camera footage. The concierge looked at the tapes the next day and found the camera didn't actually work. The office never got back to me so 16 days after I reported the incident I went back down to the office to seek answers. The office management seemed like it was the first time they were hearing about the incident. After then being informed that the camera doesn't work I inquired about when it was going to be fixed because it is now 16 days after they found out it wasn't working. The answer was "we're in the process of finding out". I spoke to residents that park in the spaces next to me and two of them have had bicycles stolen, one reported it to the office and one didn't. The one that did report it got the same answer as I did. His incident happened three months ago. I went back down to the office to speak further about the known break ins and broken cameras and the woman told me the office manager would call me the next day. The office manager never called and I was told he instead went to a company softball game. Apparently company softball games are more important than issues from residents. It seems like the only way to get a response from management is to post on social media as made evident though other yelp reviews. If someone were to ask my opinion about moving in, I would strongly advise against it.
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Where to start, ok full disclosure; I have lived at 3400 on two separate occasions over the past 6 years. The first time around I was in my mid-20s and now in my mid-30s (just to give you context). Then Back during my first tour my fiance and I lived in the D building in an upgraded one-bedroom, and, I have to say we had a blast. There simply aren't that many apartments in Costa Mesa that give you the amenities this place offers, and honestly, they are all suited towards entertaining guests which is beyond awesome, especially in the summer time. The only problem with the apartment then was noise from the Segerstrom Arts Center and cars, not much to write home about really. All said and done, it was a good experience then minus the crazy amount we paid for rent. Now Fast forward to 2016, I am a bit older with a 7-month-old baby, and the need for more square footage, so I lease an upgraded two bedroom. Not withstanding the crazy rent, the place looked amazing and coincidentally we were back in the same D building as last time. The staff were amazing with the tours and leasing process, the grounds never looked better and of course the maintenance crew are speedy to a fault. The first 3 months were bliss, the car noise wasn't too bad when we closed the screen doors and finally, the baby had her own room to sleep in. Month number 4 rolls around, and I get new neighbors upstairs in their 20s (memories of what I used to do when I lived here come rushing back, I shudder a bit and shake it off, thinking at least I was considerate of my neighbors, how bad could it be?). Well, it was/and still is horrible, I am not sure how, but, my neighbours partied soo much last summer I literally begged them to try to be considerate to no avail - from spilling liquids down onto our balcony, to hearing them fight, to hearing them have sex, to seemingly rearranging their furniture every night. It has been a living hell, calling the front gate, opening complaints at the leasing office has had no effect whatsoever. I mean it got so bad, my wife and daughter now live at a friends' in Laguna during the work week so they can sleep at night - can you imagine that?? It get's better, as if being murderously annoyed daily isn't enough, in June of 2016, my car was burglarized, and the other was literally stolen in our assigned parking spots in the parking garage of building D (ground floor). I informed management as well as Costa Mesa PD - forensics and statements were taken, and of course there was nothing 3400 could do but render a video of the car being driven out of the front gate - needless to say, this didn't help the investigation whatsoever. I always assumed (yes, my fault) that these "apartment homes" which I pay ridiculous sums to lease were safe and monitored constantly, after all, they are a gated community - this is not the case. The garages where people pay to park per space on top of the ridiculous rent, where people park their Ferraris and Lambos are - completely unmonitored (thieves take notes). Ok, I have a child now, so I exercise some patience on top of my seething rage, and two weeks later Santa Ana PD locate our stolen vehicle abandoned (of course they took our belongings, what hurt the most - they took the baby seats, stroller, and the stowed travel system. Bear in mind, all through this, 3400 did absolutely nothing, not a note was left, the community manager didn't try to even explain how this could have happened and measures they would take to prevent this from happening to others - nothing. This brings me to today. I come downstairs to the garage to pick up my daughter from daycare - guess what, the whole row of cars in my garage had windows busted out and burglarized. Not only that, since June, 3400 has done nothing in terms of security to ensure what happened to us would never happen again, so they don't know who did it. The canned response from the security guards is to go talk to the leasing office. To say I am angry would be a misnomer - I literally hate this place and can't wait to get out. Also - I realize 3400 has a glitzy facade but look closer and the varnish peels. For the past 3 days, water has been seeping from the ceiling into the first floor, so much so that they literally put a bucket to catch the water - I am not sure if I should laugh or be sad - I did that in college when I paid $300 for rent, I certainly didn't imagine paying 10 times more for the same. Lessons 1. If you are not in your 20s, do yourself a favor, save the money and move somewhere else (especially if you have kids or plan to have any) 2. 3400 is a car jackers dream! They waltz in whiles you're sleeping, burglarize and/or steal your car and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it - and, yes, 3400 will do nothing about it either. Make sure that renters insurance is robust - those gates provide a false sense of security. Good luck!!
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Leasing office is rude and quick to brush off. Called security multiply times. No answer. Totally unacceptable to have a "security" not available. Stay away
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Just put my 60 day notice in. Totally looking forward to moving out! So let me share a bit of my experience with you all and hopefully help you make a smarter decision! There are roaches! Which is completely unacceptable unless you live in the ghetto and are on section 8 or pay 600 for a 2 bedroom! I moved here from Newport Coast thinking I'll get for more my money, yea not so much! Loud rude neighbors. Roaches, cars broken in to and on top of cars being broken in to they want to charge 110 additional for you to park in garage parking!!!! I have never in my life lived in such horrible conditions. They're charging Newport prices for ghetto Santa Ana living! Do not be fooled by pretty pictures on the website! This place is garbage at it worst!!! Luxury living with roaches and car theft. Good luck with your search! Don't let it stop here!!!